tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post6174254294670655992..comments2023-12-23T02:16:43.463-08:00Comments on "Rational Preparedness" : The Blog: Shooting Through Automotive GlassJaneofVirginiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-40087935802509596242013-05-19T11:35:47.936-07:002013-05-19T11:35:47.936-07:00Thanks for posting, Dina. I hope none of us ever n...Thanks for posting, Dina. I hope none of us ever need to shoot at someone while we are still inside an automobile, but it's better to know how it should be done, and to have put in some mental effort. Please come back again soon.JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-78237697963975010472013-05-19T10:42:18.222-07:002013-05-19T10:42:18.222-07:00Great concepts on this page. This is really a nice...Great concepts on this page. This is really a nice post.I really like the way you start and include your thoughts. Thank you so much for this information. keep posting such good stuff.<br /><a href="http://www.autoglassguru.com/az/show-low" title="" rel="nofollow">showlow auto glass</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15142419661483579118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-78465067826476862032013-05-12T04:18:07.256-07:002013-05-12T04:18:07.256-07:00Thanks Russell, That's an interesting point ...Thanks Russell, That's an interesting point too. I carry hollow point rounds and I really wonder how or if they would be damaged by that first encounter with glass. Of course my third and fourth rounds should hit their targets at close range just as we would expect. Thanks for the input.JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-41622586656609587062013-05-12T04:13:30.881-07:002013-05-12T04:13:30.881-07:00Yes, I do. Most of my driving is interstate drivi... Yes, I do. Most of my driving is interstate driving, and most of our cars get windshield damage from rocks and trucks annually. The only one that hasn't is my diesel Volkswagen. I don't know what kind of windshield that is, but it stands up well. I think I would need a second mortgage to replace it though.<br /> Practicing this scenario would be confined to those who had access to a totalled car, and permission to practice shooting out the windows. Since this would reduce the value of the car for parts, very very few of us ever get the chance to explore how side and windshield glass break out in such a scenario.JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-7518533683705685372013-05-12T04:09:49.274-07:002013-05-12T04:09:49.274-07:00Police tell me that they often fire through a wind...Police tell me that they often fire through a windshield FIRST before delivering a fatal shot.JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-74727157875191364242013-05-12T04:08:37.243-07:002013-05-12T04:08:37.243-07:00Lotta Joy, Yes, I am talking about the scenario...Lotta Joy, Yes, I am talking about the scenario where you are pinned by other cars ahead, behind and on the sides, and then approached by an armed person, who will likely do harm. The picture at the top of the page shows a person practicing on a junked car in order to understand at least, how a round might behave if shot through a windshield rather than side windows, which I am told is easier.<br /> Yes, being on the inside shooting in, is a concern and this was the reason for this post. Whatever advance prep, mental or otherwise, that we can do would be beneficial. Yes, in the car shooting in LOUD, but it is survivable, and may someday be necessary.JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-60802982507548077672013-05-11T21:33:57.003-07:002013-05-11T21:33:57.003-07:00Were you talking about being on the OUTSIDE shooti...Were you talking about being on the OUTSIDE shooting IN?<br /><br />I hope not.<br /><br />My biggest worry is being on the INSIDE, shooting OUT, and the percussion on the eardrums.lotta joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12742978845913126675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-81953524535768414242013-05-11T19:11:11.954-07:002013-05-11T19:11:11.954-07:00But I would shoot into the other assholes window. ...But I would shoot into the other assholes window. :-)BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-64668071723092758242013-05-11T19:09:55.939-07:002013-05-11T19:09:55.939-07:00"Unfortunately, practicing shooting through t..."Unfortunately, practicing shooting through the glass from the inside out to an attacker, is something most of us never get a chance to practice before we are actually confronted by such a scenario."<br /><br />It would never occur to me to do that, do you know how much a frigging windshield costs these days? LOLBBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-31594576013099706142013-05-11T17:21:46.421-07:002013-05-11T17:21:46.421-07:00Some of Hornady's TAP rounds have a penetrati...Some of Hornady's TAP rounds have a penetration aspect to them. And you can buy reloads fairly readily that also have a barrier penetration aspect to them. For the police it is worth worrying about, for civilians I suspect that it is a marginal issue at best. Sheet metal is better than nothing, but problematic cover at best.russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-5847334740344705232013-05-11T05:25:35.472-07:002013-05-11T05:25:35.472-07:00BBC, Thanks for all your comments. This was a go...BBC, Thanks for all your comments. This was a good exchange. It will spur thinking about this scenario for all of our readers, which is why we are all here ! Thanks again.JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-36262603558120268822013-05-11T05:22:19.705-07:002013-05-11T05:22:19.705-07:00NO MORE.<br /><a href="http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/crbal130511.gif" rel="nofollow">NO MORE.</a>BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-83995704091795760512013-05-11T05:15:32.016-07:002013-05-11T05:15:32.016-07:00If I was shooting through a windshield at someone ...If I was shooting through a windshield at someone I wouldn't be worrying about the legality of it being as I would only be doing that in self defense anyway. BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-50211081709894041342013-05-11T05:13:05.075-07:002013-05-11T05:13:05.075-07:00I talk about guns a lot but actually seldom pack o...I talk about guns a lot but actually seldom pack one, hope I'm not sorry for that someday. BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-7798975409471908992013-05-11T05:06:43.278-07:002013-05-11T05:06:43.278-07:00Actually, shooting at anyone inside a car is gener...Actually, shooting at anyone inside a car is generally dangerous and illegal. We are expected to flee as a gun fight from two cars holds a high chance of richochets and collateral damage to others. The photo at the top of the page is showing someone practicing through a totalled car, learning the feel of windshield glass as they shoot.<br /> Yes, the round is very important, as many rounds (like a 22) won't necessary penetrate a normal front windshield. Both my carries are a 40 s&w caliber for this and some other reasons.<br /> Yes, 22s have indeed killed more people, partly due to prevalence, and partly due to the fact that when the rounds do enter the human abdomen, they bounce around considerably leaving multiple organs leaking and multiple intestinal injuries which lead to recurrent peritonitis and ultimately death.<br /> Still, I do not carry a 22. My objective as a woman seeking only to protect myself and my family and to instantly vanquish a clear threat to us, is to stop the threat as quickly and with as few rounds as possible. A 40 s&w caliber will knock down even a drug energized large man, often with only one double-tap.<br /><br />JaneofVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320442534060401465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1185219031783989911.post-81274847060141884912013-05-10T18:36:55.546-07:002013-05-10T18:36:55.546-07:00Actually, how well a bullet with go through a fron...Actually, how well a bullet with go through a front safety glass window depends on the slug you choose. But it's not likely I'll ever shoot at someone driving toward me. And if I did I wouldn't give my bullet selection a hell of a lot of thought being as shit hitting a windshield is going to pretty much get the drivers attention anyway and the fucking idiot is going to be ducking and maybe drive into the ditch for a Darwin award. :-) <br /><br />If I shoot at a side window no problem, the first shot shatters the glass and the rest of the shots have a clear passage to another Darwin award. :-)<br /><br />I've been in many discussions over the years about what is the best gun to have if you are only going to have one gun. Here is a fact, .22's have killed more people and game than all other calibers. <br /><br />My .22 rifle will spit out 14 shots as fast as I pull the trigger, go ahead motherfucker, make my day. BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.com